Monday, September 3, 2007


I did not realize that I would be rushed in so soon to write this post by a strange discovery which took place last night. Before anyone is misled, this discovery is basically someone discovering this in early 1900's and it being lost to shelves of libraries! In excitement, I did not sleep till 5 AM and got up at 9 AM! Today, I will try to make best use of my last day of PTO! I should not be surprised by this finding, as the AUM sign was also discovered by someone else in a cave in Arizona, a few years back.

Before I reveal the evidence found in the discoveries, I wanted to share my thinking that went on in chasing these discoveries. It is something like a quest being followed to solve a puzzle, but in hindsight it looks as if someone had already preordained this path for me! So there is nothing to my credit really.

While in India, we never heard of anything on Americas, except Canada and the United States of America. There was nothing on Mexico, Red Indians, Perus, Incas, Mayas, or anything related to the history of North and South Americas, except something about Red Indians in a passing manner. Yes, once I read about Guatemala and some South American Countries in Somerset Maugham's Stories, and the impression I carried back was a very negative one! It was about usual countries facing poverty, civil strife and political instability, which has always been seen in post colonial colonies all over the world! So when I came to the US in 1987, after being exposed to Maoris in New Zealand, and Aborigines in Australia, I was very surprised to see a lot of commonality between Mexicans and Indians.

I saw a lot of similarities between Mexican and Indian people and their culture. There is a lot of physical similarity in their looks and complexion, which can not be placed just on the fact that they are on almost on the same latitude! Indians have "rotis" or "chapatis", and Mexicans have "tortillas". The former have "red" and "green" chutneys, and the later has "red" and "green" salsas. The Indian "dhurries" looked exactly like Mexican "carpets". Even a lot of pottery and straw handicrafts looked the same! This was surprising, considering there was no mention of contact between these two people in the recorded World History since 500 BC approximately! These similarities were strange, even after accounting for 2500 years of changes drifting in. In our own life spans, we would have seen so many changes in the world!

Another interesting story that stuck me was that in the Indian Epic Mahabharata, there is a mention that Pandavas took the help of Mayas in building their palaces. Please note that, like English historians in 1700's laughing at the very mention of Dwarka city being submerged in ocean, in Mahabharata, the last laugh was reserved for the Indian Archealogists who found the city, exactly where it was described and the carbon dating matched the time-period of Mahabharata! Then there is a mention about Arjun going to Paataala lok, (see my Sanskrit etymology Arctic, Antarctic, Antlantic, Antlantis, Paataala), which happens to be diametrically opposite India on the Globe, which is Meso America! He had visited Nagas, and there is some talk about the Nagaland people having some connection with Mayas DNA wise.

In 1993, after the birth of my daughter, I took my in-laws to Golden Gate Park in San Francisco, and at the entrance of Japanese Garden, I came across a Lingam displayed, which was discovered while doing some construction project, and there was no easy explanation why it was found there. The site became a world pilgrimage site for the Hindus all over the world. I have the video of it and I need to retrieve it from my archives sometime in future.

Later in 2001, I took my family to the same place, but could not find the site. I went to the local library and inquired about it. After talking to many people in the library, finally I came across an old sweet lady who made a few calls, and said that the artifact was stowed away in a warehouse as it became a nuisance for the park personnel. There was no more news on this and everything was apparently hushed up.

I find this nothing but another incidence of a lighter version of deliberate attempts, perhaps unconsciously, by the gate keepers of the main stream academia, to wipe out evidences of any eastern or pagan religion or an ex-colony reaching Americas, before Columbus. Recall that these colonists, crusaders and zealots of the world burnt the libraries of Alexandria, Taxilla, Nalanda, Turkey, Anatolia and many others. What they did to the natives of Americas in the same matter, where all of their scriptures and records were burnt by the Spanish Padres, including staking them if they refused to convert to their religion! There is a price to be paid for being pure and innocent in this modern crooked world, specially when your neighbors have become crooked and vulgur! Imagine the innocence that was claimed by terrorists on Sep 11. Similar things happened in the past at the hands of the colonists!

In a crime scene, a link to criminals is always found in terms of some scraps of evidence, perhaps a few finger prints or some DNA samples, that helps detectives to trace back to the wrong doers. Similarly all over the world, evidences are being found of this cover up. I would talk one day on the grandest cover up in Christianity by the Roman Church Founders. Please note, I believe in Christ as much as his true disciples did, but against the politics, lying, violence and forced conversion that went on by the Church zealots. As I have said many times before, for those of you who have heard me on this topic, I wish everyone in the world truly becomes a follower of Christ's teachings.

Then in 2002, during my visit to Austria and stay in a Yoga camp, I came across a beautiful young lady. I mistook her to be Indian and very curiously she looked like a wife of some Indian acquaintance I knew in Atlanta. So when I approached her, thinking that we are only 2 Indians in the camp with the feeling of akinship one minority feels in foreign lands towards another minority from same country, I was surprised to hear that she was from Argentina and of Native American decent! Once, while taking a walk with the group members of the Yoga camp one evening, I found her walking along with me and we started talking. I requested her to sing one of their "chants", and I was surprised by its similarities with the Sanskrit Slokas! The tune of her chanting was very familiar to me.

Oh, I forgot that many years before that, while going through some of history books collection, I found that there was some pyramid in Mexico, where a codex was found, with a picture where it depicted the exact scene of "Ocean Churning" myth of Indians. There was a depiction of a mountain, a tortoise sitting on it, a long snake being used as a rope, and on two sides men holding on to the two ends of a giant snake! Many times I tried to find this picture, to make notes, but never found out, while I was getting more affirmations on this topic's findings. This was not a hindrance, though a nuisance of loosing countless hours in the search, as I found the same picture later on Internet. This was a book on Vedic Cosmology by Richard Thompson which is in my library!

Original Codex Picture taken from some Codex Library.

Picture talking about the Ocean Churning Scene depiction in the Codex by Richard Thompson as well as it is mentioned in the book 'Myths of Pre-Columbian America' By Donald A. MacKenzie.
Some interesting comments in the later book are:

Page v Smith has identified this “ wonder beast “ or, as the Hindus would have called it, this with the walrus or sea-elephant, which is seen only in high ...

Page viii . ...but none is more remarkable than that afforded by the American story of Yapp Chapter which so closely resembles, in all its essential features...With that piece of evidence alone, a good circumstantial case is made out for the transference to America of Hindu modes of thought, Hindu ...

Page ix It further prepares us for identifying the elephant-like figures on Maya sculptured stones, declared by some to be ...

Page 27 Hindu Game in Mexico—Buddhist Scene in Mexican Codex—The Central American “ Long-nosed God “—American “ Elephant Mound “ and “ Elephant Pipes”.
In the next chapter it will be shown that the Indian elephant figures in the symbolism of the Maya civilization of Central America, and in the following ...

Page 34 ... the turbaned rider and his implement, no less than the distinctively Hindu artistic feeling in the modelling are entirely fatal to the macaw hypothesis. ...

Page 35 ...the pre Columbians acquired the Hindu game called pachisi, and that in their picture writing ( Vatican Codex) there is a series of scenes taken from Japanese temple scrolls. ...

Page 244 Some regard the head as that of a tapir. Elliot Smith calls him “ the elephant-headed rain god”. In India, as has been shown, Indra's place was taken ...

Page 247 It is apparent from the evidence of the Dresden Codex that the thunder dog was added with the elephant-headed god of India to the American “ mythological ...

Page 317 The Maya god B was undoubtedly of Indian origin and connected with the elephant-headed god Ganesha and the god Indra, as has been shown. ...

Sir William Jones (1746-1794) judge of the Supreme Court at Calcutta and was one who pioneered Sanskrit studies. His admiration for Indian thought and culture was almost limitless. He has remarked:

"Rama is represented as a descendant from the sun, as the husband of Sita, and the son of a princess named Causelya. It is very remarkable that Peruvians, whose Incas boasted of the same descent, styled their greatest festival Rama-Sitva; whence we may take it that South America was peopled by the same race who imported into the farthest of parts of Asia the rites and the fabulous history of Rama." (source: Asiatic Researches Volume I. p. 426).

One day, my search took me to the discovery of the AUM sign in Arizona, and eventually to the articles by Gene Matlock Hopis and Mayans and Common Indian and Hindu God .

For detailed article so far what people have talked about, one can go to:

My own research led to these findings:

In The Sacred Symbols of Mu, by James Churchward, chapter 'The Mound Builders of North America, the following pictures were given, with a mention on the sign "AUM", this is what said on The Calendar Glyphs:

This is a sacred symbol common in Oriental countries. Once, and only once, before have I found it in America. That was among the Mound Builders' remains taken from one of their burial grounds. It is one of those ancient religious symbols whose meaning was lost when the Brahmins persecuted and drove their teachers, the Naacals, out of India into the snowcapped ranges of the Himalayas about 2000 to 2500 B. C. The meaning of the symbol is expressed in four words of the ancient tongue. These words were used before the commencement of a supplication, or prayers. They are being repeated to this day but the priesthood does not know their meaning. The meaning of AUM was forgotten about the same date. So far in months 6 and 8 we find a direct connection between the people who made this calendar stone and the Mound Builders, Mu and the Orient.

The text did not give any location where the sign AUM was found on the Calander Glyph, but I magnified the image, and found the AUM sign. There could be more AUM signs, but I could not locate them. The funny thing is that the author mentions to have seen another AUM sign in America.

I have not spend enough time on the glyph but on surface it looks like an early primitive Mayan Calandar, with Lunar Zodiac depicted in the inside "circle" and perhaps the Solar Zodiac is depicted in the outside "circle". This looks very primitive compared to later Mayan Calandar shown above.

Picture of Vishnu resting on Snake Shesh-Naag.

The above picture is like the one showing Vishnu resting on the Snake Shesh-Naag. The symbol stand for the Super-soul or the Divine being in dominion over the Time which often is considered the biggest Killer or Destroyer. Snake was also considered a symbol of Eternity and a part of Male Worship Principle. Picture taken from The Sacred Symbols of Mu.

The above left 2 potteries are ancient ones showing swastika signs, along with Celtic cross sign. In Europe, Swastika Sign and presence of Shiva-like God is also found. The right most is a picture of modern pottery. Picture taken from The Sacred Symbols of Mu.

This is another symbol of Native Americans, which I picked up a long time back, when I was researching on Swastika. Think that this comes from Snake Mounds of Ohio. Sometime I will come up with an article on Swastika signs being found all over the world from ancient times.

Interestingly, a Snake Mound was found very close to Stonehenge. Swastika signs have also been found in Stone Circles, and if I am not mistaken in the Urns found in Stonehenge. There could be more Snake Mounds associated with Stone Circles, which I need to further research.

The above pictures were discovered by me, when I was looking for Mayan Calender Glyphs, and what struck me about the above poses that the left one is an advance version of a Yoga posture called "Vrischika Asan" or "Scorpion" and the one on the right is a version of "Dhanur Asan". "Vrischika Asan" is the most advanced posture for people doing "Sheersh Asan" or "Head Stand", which has many variations but of lesser difficulty!

Tree Worship in Mayans, as found with Celtic Druids, and all over Middle Eastern countries, which I shall talk about sometime.

Tree Worship in Hinduism. Compare the two pictures and see if the essence of the same spirit of worship, religion, people and culture is being protrayed. Notice the 2 "elephant heads" in the Mayan Picture. Also the "spiral" motifs are often found in Indian Temples.

Needless to say, compared to the Indian drawings, the Mayan and Mound People's sculpture/drawing looks very primitive and shows some residuals of animalistic worship in North America. It just once again proves that these people came to America in early times and the DNA study establishes these people came from Asia but the route via Alaska is being challenged in the light of some recent findings, which was covered in the History Channel.


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Virender said...

I have the same research oriented quest that you have. Unfortunately there is not much serious archaeology coming out of our homeland and none have pinned down many of these theories to convince the modern world. I have a great desire to research and throw some light by documenting such finds. Thank you. I hope to learn from you and contribute to this search for truth. I often tell my wife that I'd love to go on a hunt for Kishkindha.

Shankrita said...

If you have researched extensively on Archeology and History; then why have you continually using the pejorative word Hindu especially if you are against politics, discrimination, and violence?

Don’t you know that Hindu is a Persian name for a river, which was adopted by Islamic rulers of India to impose taxation on those that followed the Vedas and Upanishads?

Or maybe Hindu is a new religion, where one claims that they follow the Vedas and the Upanishads; however do the opposite of the teachings by practicing Hindu caste system. Isn’t that hypocrisy?

It’s alright by me because I follow the Sanatana Dharma and regardless of the false claims made by Hindus about Sanatana Dharma being another name for Hinduism, in time that will not hold. It’s not long, when Hindu like Islam will be in the media of being the religion of terror. For that you can thank the Hindutva and other Hindu groups, who call themselves Kshatriya and behave more like Assuras!

P.S. United States of America was not founded on Christianity. If you read the Declaration of Independence you'll see the usage of “Nature's God” not Christ or YHWE.

Carl de Borhegyi said...

I found a drawing online by Daniela Epstein of a ball court relief panel from the archaeological site of El Tajin, in Veracruz Mexico. The mythological scene depicted on the ballcourt panel,as far as I know, has never been identified, until now, as the same Churning of the Milk's Ocean scene often depicted in Hindu art.

For more on this amazing discovery read SOMA IN THE AMERICAS: by Carl de Borhegyi at

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The reason why their is limited archaeological evidence in India is because
1. India has been vandalized by the Muslim invaders like no other ancient civilization has - not the Chinese, not the Mayans for example.
2. Excavations at the Ram Mandir are are not possible - so no new evidence can be added.
3. Archaeological sites related to Hinduism/Vedic Era/ Sanatana Dharma are under constant threat of destruction like Ram Setu, which has been mischieviously also called 'Adam's Bridge' as if its most ancient name doesn't exist.
4. Also India is heavily populated, all the artifacts etc. made of precious metals and ancient metals have been melted and sold for scrap.
5. The ancient city of Hastinapur has been taken over by Buddhists and the Hindu temples and sites are in bad state. Often the guides will not even let you have apeep at these sites. This is true of Hastinapur.
6. Also the sites of ancient temples such as the ones at Mathura and vrindavana are still worshipped. We dont know what lies beneath!
7. Our research is therefore limited to Harappa. And there too since the Whites have told us that its script cannot be deciphered - we have accepted that too. There are scholars such as Kurt Schildmann who have suggested that the seals can be deciphered with the help of sanskrit. So on....

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Don Gaspa said...

Nice Article, thx for sharing.

You may find it interesting;

Kurus / Kauravas within
Brazilian main "native language", the "tupy".

child / Small person: Kuru-mi(n)

evil person: Kaura-ayva
ayva means bitter, sour, rotten, damaged

Name of a brazilian native tribe
still living today in Xingu reserve:
Ku'y - Kurus

It also worth take a look at:
Kunitsukami, Kunichiwa, kunbaia, Kun Y / kuni gamae

Hira-Gana <-> Hindu-Grama

Gana / Gau / Go
japanese language=
Ny Hon Go
chackravartin Home Word

Seems that

Kuru: as in the the kurus in the Bhagvad (Bhu Gau Vak Dah)
Kara: as in karauva or in "cara" used oftenly in portuguese prakrit for person and
Nara: as in Nara-Yan, Nara-Da

are the same. And i also do put the kumaras in the same basket. Which can be breaked down into kin-naras or Kun'Y Naras

For the Tupy

The Y ("ee" Like in Krsna )
stands for water.

So almost every word in it has the 'y'.


Y + stem Stah = Y'Ta = Stone
Y + Gau = River (igua'r'açu big river)
Y + Na + Gau= Y'nga = Dry
Y + Rá = honey (yellow liquid)

And in chinese:

Y' Jing

The book (record) of the water

Another nice one in tupy is "tata" for fire
and "tartara" in japanese for the archaic blasting furnace
used for making tamahagne for the katana.

The extinct native language of australia exposed in the
Outlines of a grammar, vocabulary, and phraseology, of the aboriginal language of South Australia by Teichelmann, Chr. G. ; Schürmann, C. W.
Looks like identical to "tupy" language. And i think that it may be very close
related to Tamil.
For example one of the most common words in tupy is pirã for fish, as in "piranha",
in tupy pirã can be man, red, head, fish.. and a lot of things. There is a huge amount of words beginning with PIRã in tupy and also in Tamil

There is also a lot of articles describing the DNA surveys of
the "native" people in the rain forest and in Xingu Reserve that
shows the presence of an astounding high amount of australian aboriginal DNA.
Unexplainable by the out of africa theory (L.O.L.). There are a few articles on this in
"Ancient-Origins . net"

It's Clear for me after living in the xingu reserve that the north, central an south american so called native inhabitants are in truth an interbreeding in-between the Shakias and the Kumaras (australian aboriginal bio type like tamil nadu people), the parvatas and kurus.

When the ocean started raising near the begining of this interglacial period the Kumara / Kuru land become flooded and they went after the land in the indian sub continent, this started a war with the shakias and Aryas that ended only with the Kalinga war with Ashoka Maurya.

The archeological record here in Brazil shows two waves of migration, one +/- 20k years after the last ice ace started (80 K years ago - Serra da Capivara National Park), when the bering bridge became avaliable, and another one starting 30K years ago and ending about 12k years ago (by the end of the last ice ace before the melting of the ice sheets).

The shakias strategy were to kill all man and then make the women pregnant. But they were only fighting back (revenge) the invasion of the indian sub continent triggered by the rising ocean.

The 1st Tamil Sangan and also the 2nd became flooded and the 3rd is located today in TAmil NAdu.

Hope you like it.
By Uni