Friday, October 19, 2007

Shiva in Europe

Indus Valley Civilization is dated around 3300 BC and cave dwellings have been found in NW of Indian Penisula dating 15000 BC. National Geographic Genome Project has dated 40,000 BC when Man passed into Europe from this region.

Shiva is the most ancient God of India and he was called Pashu Pati also. The "wine, meat and sex" part of Tantra goes to the revelry in the earliest days of the world religion(s). He is often associated with snakes, bull and other animals.

Dionysus is the Greek equivalent of Shiva (sometimes equated with Balraam as Herculues is equated with Krishna) and Geeks acknowledge that this God of theirs came from India. (Source Anacalypsisand many other books).

Wriiten here in this book Ref 1 is:

Although the political prominence of Vishnu and Shiva belong to the Age of reformed Brahmanism, it is undoubted that both deities were worshipped throughout the long period of Buddhistic ascendancy. The Greek ambassador Megasthenes, who resided in India between B.C. 311 and 302, and wrote Ta Indika, furnishes interesting evidence in this connection. "By his description of the god Dionysus, whom they worshipped in the mountains, Shiva", says Professor Macdonell, "must be intended, and by Herakles, adored in the plains . . . no other can be meant than Vishnu and his incarnation Krishna. . . . These statements seem to justify the conclusion that Shiva and Vishnu were already prominent as highest gods, the former in the mountains, the latter in the Ganges valley. . . . We also learn from Megasthenes that the doctrine of the four Ages of the World (Yugas) was fully developed in India by this time."

Here in Ref 2 it says:

By far the most generally accepted and most significant of the animal embodiments of the god, however, was that of a bull. There were a multitude of cult appellatives emphasizing this conception of Dionysus. He was variously addressed as the "horned child," the "horned deity," the "bull-horned," and the "bull-browed." The Argives worshiped him as "the son of a cow" or "bull-born," and the ancient Elean chant addressed him directly as a bull. "Come, hero Dionysus, come with the Graces to thy house by the shores of the sea; hasten with thy bull-foot." So ran the hymn itself, while the chorus repeated "goodly bull, goodly bull." One readily recalls, also, that the residence of the king-archon at Athens, where the sacred marriage between Dionysus and the basilinna was celebrated, was called the boukolion, or "ox stall."
Appear, appear, whatso thy shape or name

O Mountain Bull, Snake of the Hundred Heads, (Shesh Naag)

Then a God bull-horned Zeus bare, And with serpents entwined his hair.

They are crowned with snakes

They dressed themselves in fawnskins and wound snakes around

Here in Ref. 3 it is says:

It may reasonably be assumed, therefore, that the Roman ceremonies were not essentially different from their Asian originals.

Remember this wass written when Paganism was taken derogatively and negatively.

Pashupati in Indus Valley

Pashupati in Indus Valley

Irish Pashupati or Shiva - Cernunnos. Notice the snake which is often found associated with Shiva and not found in Europe as far as I know.

Celtic Lord of Beast - Pashupati

From Image Carving on Gundestrup Cauldron found in Denmark

Banteay Srei: Oldest Hindu Temple In Cambodia

Update:  The Gundestrup cauldron Plate B has a supposedly picture of Lakshmi with two Elephants.

Anecdotal:  I had a Yoga Student who went to stay in Denmark for 2-3 years.  I used to tell her about my findings and she would be skeptical about what I would say, until she went to local museums there and found many Indian artifacts.  She also talked to local folks, and they said that their ancestors had come from India.  Discovery Channel also had reported finding  Buddha statutes in a ship wreck site.  All this is again connected with the Proto Indo European People, Language, Religion and Culture, which the West likes to call, and is based on DNA, Linguistics and Archeological studies.

Monday, September 3, 2007


I did not realize that I would be rushed in so soon to write this post by a strange discovery which took place last night. Before anyone is misled, this discovery is basically someone discovering this in early 1900's and it being lost to shelves of libraries! In excitement, I did not sleep till 5 AM and got up at 9 AM! Today, I will try to make best use of my last day of PTO! I should not be surprised by this finding, as the AUM sign was also discovered by someone else in a cave in Arizona, a few years back.

Before I reveal the evidence found in the discoveries, I wanted to share my thinking that went on in chasing these discoveries. It is something like a quest being followed to solve a puzzle, but in hindsight it looks as if someone had already preordained this path for me! So there is nothing to my credit really.

While in India, we never heard of anything on Americas, except Canada and the United States of America. There was nothing on Mexico, Red Indians, Perus, Incas, Mayas, or anything related to the history of North and South Americas, except something about Red Indians in a passing manner. Yes, once I read about Guatemala and some South American Countries in Somerset Maugham's Stories, and the impression I carried back was a very negative one! It was about usual countries facing poverty, civil strife and political instability, which has always been seen in post colonial colonies all over the world! So when I came to the US in 1987, after being exposed to Maoris in New Zealand, and Aborigines in Australia, I was very surprised to see a lot of commonality between Mexicans and Indians.

I saw a lot of similarities between Mexican and Indian people and their culture. There is a lot of physical similarity in their looks and complexion, which can not be placed just on the fact that they are on almost on the same latitude! Indians have "rotis" or "chapatis", and Mexicans have "tortillas". The former have "red" and "green" chutneys, and the later has "red" and "green" salsas. The Indian "dhurries" looked exactly like Mexican "carpets". Even a lot of pottery and straw handicrafts looked the same! This was surprising, considering there was no mention of contact between these two people in the recorded World History since 500 BC approximately! These similarities were strange, even after accounting for 2500 years of changes drifting in. In our own life spans, we would have seen so many changes in the world!

Another interesting story that stuck me was that in the Indian Epic Mahabharata, there is a mention that Pandavas took the help of Mayas in building their palaces. Please note that, like English historians in 1700's laughing at the very mention of Dwarka city being submerged in ocean, in Mahabharata, the last laugh was reserved for the Indian Archealogists who found the city, exactly where it was described and the carbon dating matched the time-period of Mahabharata! Then there is a mention about Arjun going to Paataala lok, (see my Sanskrit etymology Arctic, Antarctic, Antlantic, Antlantis, Paataala), which happens to be diametrically opposite India on the Globe, which is Meso America! He had visited Nagas, and there is some talk about the Nagaland people having some connection with Mayas DNA wise.

In 1993, after the birth of my daughter, I took my in-laws to Golden Gate Park in San Francisco, and at the entrance of Japanese Garden, I came across a Lingam displayed, which was discovered while doing some construction project, and there was no easy explanation why it was found there. The site became a world pilgrimage site for the Hindus all over the world. I have the video of it and I need to retrieve it from my archives sometime in future.

Later in 2001, I took my family to the same place, but could not find the site. I went to the local library and inquired about it. After talking to many people in the library, finally I came across an old sweet lady who made a few calls, and said that the artifact was stowed away in a warehouse as it became a nuisance for the park personnel. There was no more news on this and everything was apparently hushed up.

I find this nothing but another incidence of a lighter version of deliberate attempts, perhaps unconsciously, by the gate keepers of the main stream academia, to wipe out evidences of any eastern or pagan religion or an ex-colony reaching Americas, before Columbus. Recall that these colonists, crusaders and zealots of the world burnt the libraries of Alexandria, Taxilla, Nalanda, Turkey, Anatolia and many others. What they did to the natives of Americas in the same matter, where all of their scriptures and records were burnt by the Spanish Padres, including staking them if they refused to convert to their religion! There is a price to be paid for being pure and innocent in this modern crooked world, specially when your neighbors have become crooked and vulgur! Imagine the innocence that was claimed by terrorists on Sep 11. Similar things happened in the past at the hands of the colonists!

In a crime scene, a link to criminals is always found in terms of some scraps of evidence, perhaps a few finger prints or some DNA samples, that helps detectives to trace back to the wrong doers. Similarly all over the world, evidences are being found of this cover up. I would talk one day on the grandest cover up in Christianity by the Roman Church Founders. Please note, I believe in Christ as much as his true disciples did, but against the politics, lying, violence and forced conversion that went on by the Church zealots. As I have said many times before, for those of you who have heard me on this topic, I wish everyone in the world truly becomes a follower of Christ's teachings.

Then in 2002, during my visit to Austria and stay in a Yoga camp, I came across a beautiful young lady. I mistook her to be Indian and very curiously she looked like a wife of some Indian acquaintance I knew in Atlanta. So when I approached her, thinking that we are only 2 Indians in the camp with the feeling of akinship one minority feels in foreign lands towards another minority from same country, I was surprised to hear that she was from Argentina and of Native American decent! Once, while taking a walk with the group members of the Yoga camp one evening, I found her walking along with me and we started talking. I requested her to sing one of their "chants", and I was surprised by its similarities with the Sanskrit Slokas! The tune of her chanting was very familiar to me.

Oh, I forgot that many years before that, while going through some of history books collection, I found that there was some pyramid in Mexico, where a codex was found, with a picture where it depicted the exact scene of "Ocean Churning" myth of Indians. There was a depiction of a mountain, a tortoise sitting on it, a long snake being used as a rope, and on two sides men holding on to the two ends of a giant snake! Many times I tried to find this picture, to make notes, but never found out, while I was getting more affirmations on this topic's findings. This was not a hindrance, though a nuisance of loosing countless hours in the search, as I found the same picture later on Internet. This was a book on Vedic Cosmology by Richard Thompson which is in my library!

Original Codex Picture taken from some Codex Library.

Picture talking about the Ocean Churning Scene depiction in the Codex by Richard Thompson as well as it is mentioned in the book 'Myths of Pre-Columbian America' By Donald A. MacKenzie.
Some interesting comments in the later book are:

Page v Smith has identified this “ wonder beast “ or, as the Hindus would have called it, this with the walrus or sea-elephant, which is seen only in high ...

Page viii . ...but none is more remarkable than that afforded by the American story of Yapp Chapter which so closely resembles, in all its essential features...With that piece of evidence alone, a good circumstantial case is made out for the transference to America of Hindu modes of thought, Hindu ...

Page ix It further prepares us for identifying the elephant-like figures on Maya sculptured stones, declared by some to be ...

Page 27 Hindu Game in Mexico—Buddhist Scene in Mexican Codex—The Central American “ Long-nosed God “—American “ Elephant Mound “ and “ Elephant Pipes”.
In the next chapter it will be shown that the Indian elephant figures in the symbolism of the Maya civilization of Central America, and in the following ...

Page 34 ... the turbaned rider and his implement, no less than the distinctively Hindu artistic feeling in the modelling are entirely fatal to the macaw hypothesis. ...

Page 35 ...the pre Columbians acquired the Hindu game called pachisi, and that in their picture writing ( Vatican Codex) there is a series of scenes taken from Japanese temple scrolls. ...

Page 244 Some regard the head as that of a tapir. Elliot Smith calls him “ the elephant-headed rain god”. In India, as has been shown, Indra's place was taken ...

Page 247 It is apparent from the evidence of the Dresden Codex that the thunder dog was added with the elephant-headed god of India to the American “ mythological ...

Page 317 The Maya god B was undoubtedly of Indian origin and connected with the elephant-headed god Ganesha and the god Indra, as has been shown. ...

Sir William Jones (1746-1794) judge of the Supreme Court at Calcutta and was one who pioneered Sanskrit studies. His admiration for Indian thought and culture was almost limitless. He has remarked:

"Rama is represented as a descendant from the sun, as the husband of Sita, and the son of a princess named Causelya. It is very remarkable that Peruvians, whose Incas boasted of the same descent, styled their greatest festival Rama-Sitva; whence we may take it that South America was peopled by the same race who imported into the farthest of parts of Asia the rites and the fabulous history of Rama." (source: Asiatic Researches Volume I. p. 426).

One day, my search took me to the discovery of the AUM sign in Arizona, and eventually to the articles by Gene Matlock Hopis and Mayans and Common Indian and Hindu God .

For detailed article so far what people have talked about, one can go to:

My own research led to these findings:

In The Sacred Symbols of Mu, by James Churchward, chapter 'The Mound Builders of North America, the following pictures were given, with a mention on the sign "AUM", this is what said on The Calendar Glyphs:

This is a sacred symbol common in Oriental countries. Once, and only once, before have I found it in America. That was among the Mound Builders' remains taken from one of their burial grounds. It is one of those ancient religious symbols whose meaning was lost when the Brahmins persecuted and drove their teachers, the Naacals, out of India into the snowcapped ranges of the Himalayas about 2000 to 2500 B. C. The meaning of the symbol is expressed in four words of the ancient tongue. These words were used before the commencement of a supplication, or prayers. They are being repeated to this day but the priesthood does not know their meaning. The meaning of AUM was forgotten about the same date. So far in months 6 and 8 we find a direct connection between the people who made this calendar stone and the Mound Builders, Mu and the Orient.

The text did not give any location where the sign AUM was found on the Calander Glyph, but I magnified the image, and found the AUM sign. There could be more AUM signs, but I could not locate them. The funny thing is that the author mentions to have seen another AUM sign in America.

I have not spend enough time on the glyph but on surface it looks like an early primitive Mayan Calandar, with Lunar Zodiac depicted in the inside "circle" and perhaps the Solar Zodiac is depicted in the outside "circle". This looks very primitive compared to later Mayan Calandar shown above.

Picture of Vishnu resting on Snake Shesh-Naag.

The above picture is like the one showing Vishnu resting on the Snake Shesh-Naag. The symbol stand for the Super-soul or the Divine being in dominion over the Time which often is considered the biggest Killer or Destroyer. Snake was also considered a symbol of Eternity and a part of Male Worship Principle. Picture taken from The Sacred Symbols of Mu.

The above left 2 potteries are ancient ones showing swastika signs, along with Celtic cross sign. In Europe, Swastika Sign and presence of Shiva-like God is also found. The right most is a picture of modern pottery. Picture taken from The Sacred Symbols of Mu.

This is another symbol of Native Americans, which I picked up a long time back, when I was researching on Swastika. Think that this comes from Snake Mounds of Ohio. Sometime I will come up with an article on Swastika signs being found all over the world from ancient times.

Interestingly, a Snake Mound was found very close to Stonehenge. Swastika signs have also been found in Stone Circles, and if I am not mistaken in the Urns found in Stonehenge. There could be more Snake Mounds associated with Stone Circles, which I need to further research.

The above pictures were discovered by me, when I was looking for Mayan Calender Glyphs, and what struck me about the above poses that the left one is an advance version of a Yoga posture called "Vrischika Asan" or "Scorpion" and the one on the right is a version of "Dhanur Asan". "Vrischika Asan" is the most advanced posture for people doing "Sheersh Asan" or "Head Stand", which has many variations but of lesser difficulty!

Tree Worship in Mayans, as found with Celtic Druids, and all over Middle Eastern countries, which I shall talk about sometime.

Tree Worship in Hinduism. Compare the two pictures and see if the essence of the same spirit of worship, religion, people and culture is being protrayed. Notice the 2 "elephant heads" in the Mayan Picture. Also the "spiral" motifs are often found in Indian Temples.

Needless to say, compared to the Indian drawings, the Mayan and Mound People's sculpture/drawing looks very primitive and shows some residuals of animalistic worship in North America. It just once again proves that these people came to America in early times and the DNA study establishes these people came from Asia but the route via Alaska is being challenged in the light of some recent findings, which was covered in the History Channel.

Thursday, August 30, 2007


While reading William Durant history book on Crete and Greek Civilization, I found that Crete people were worshipping snake, a mysterious letter 3, and a Fertility Goddess. The mysterious letter 3 would resurface in the temples discovered in Crete.

Discovery recently came out with a discovery, saying all over the middle east and the ancient world, they worshipped snakes. This was nothing new for people whose verbal traditions said the same thing and had not converted to the new religions of last 2 millennial! The snake worship was often associated with the Phallic Worship, which is nothing but a symbol of the Male Principle or the Father Principle Worship. The Fertility Goddess was nothing but the symbol of the Female Worship Principle.

The letter "3" worship reminded me of the sign AUM, and many years back, I found it in the archives of Crete Museum, which I carefully saved in my private collection.

Look at the "11" and "5" O'Clock position of the imaginary circular clock dial in the top left picture, and you will see the AUM signs.

Now also look at the "1" O'Clock position of the top right picture. These are very ancient inscriptions and one should account for damages, repairs, rudimentary nature of scripting and inscription technology by the ancients.

Other circumstantial evidence can be found by the fact, that Phoenician and Brhami Script were the same (see my other blogs). And if one compares the following pictures, one would be reminded of some common postures used by Indians even today. The same postures can be seen in Indus Valley Civilization.

Picture showing "Namaste" Posture while standing. Allow allowance for lack in sophistication in sculpture to show two hands folded and protuding in 3 dimension.

Picture showing and "Namaste" posture.

Another picture showing "Padma-Asan".

Another picture showing "Namaste" Posture.

Still not conviced. Look at the above picture of Snake Godess from Crete, and see the "Bindi" or the "cicular mark", which is often put by Indian women.

Above 2 pictures show Swastika sign of Hindus. In another posting I would show presence of Swastika sign all over the world. My next posting on this blog would be about Aum Sign in America.

Still not convinced? Go and see movie Troy, and you will find that like Hindus, the Troy people would cremate and mourn the dead for 13 days, and on the last day of the mourning, they would have a feast. Their women would wear something like an Indian Sari. Troy and Crete were the early civilizations that influenced Greek Civilization. Ancient Greek and Sanskrit are very close. There is a lot of parallelism and similarity between Greek and Hindu Religion, Languages, Philosophies, Science and Astronomy. Lately, as the field of researchers have opened up the club of history writers, which was initially dominated by colonist historians, there is a "pressure" to revisit these facts. Internet has only aided this phenomenon. There were honest historians among the colonist historians but for obvious reasons, they were not very popular and accepted by their main stream brothers. Then history usually demands physical and "hard" proofs, like discovery of archaeological sites with artifacts. "Soft" facts like similarity in Languages, Religion, Philosophies, and Science are difficult to admit and usually hard to prove that which way the influence or migration happened. Grudgingly, now these similarities are being labelled under Proto-Indo European Civilization. DNA study, and other observations of mine, which I will write about sometime, now admits that the migration happened from the North-Western Region of Indian Peninsula to Europe in 40,000 BC. It would be wrong to say that all the things that make up a civilization happened in the last 5000 years only and before that there was no civilization. The western thinking was very much influenced by Bible's Genesis, which said that the world was made in 7 days, around 5000 years back, and this was a big influence to them. In another posting, I will show that the stories of Bible, in Old Testament specially, are of Babylonia and Egyptian origin, which were copied from Persians and their eastern sources, but some where misunderstood or taken literally.

Also, please read this posting on related topic:
King Minos of Crete and Sage Manu of Hindus

Update: Strangely that I had to come across this, while trying to write up the follow up posting.
There is a place called Gypsades at Knossos, and if you note, the first world sounds like Gypsi Des. Gypsies are supposed to have originated from India, but the time-line is not so distant in past, which does match the time-line when one talks about the Crete Civilization.